Why is Dave the Diver a nominee for Best Independent Game when it’s developer Mintrocket is a subsidiary of Nexon, a 18 Billion dollar company? Don’t get me wrong it’s a great game but I don’t think it’s fair
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Lol, Wikipedia brings you directly to Nexon.
I would hardly call that indie.
Dredge or Sea of Stars for indie.
That’s a fair question. I would be curious to know how much financial support the studio received on it.
So how can they be an indie if they’re under a big company? Genuine question.
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed. I previously thought it was an indie game until I looked up Mintrocket and saw that it was a Nexon studio.
Seeing the surge in popularity in indie gaming, you can definitely expect this. Gaming is in a sad state rn.
If a game has cutesy pixel art it’s indie. It doesn’t matter who made it
It’s a fun game, for sure, but I absolutely don’t think it should be up for “independent” awards. They’re 100% a subsidiary of a large, successful media corporation.
Mintrocket has said they arent an indie company because they dont have to worry about deadlines much
Despite the game’s look, Mintrocket have stated it is not an indie game. [7]
awards are stupid
“indie” in games is such a strange thing.
Could they have put Baldur’s gate in this category? Larian is independent after all, and they’re not a corporation or even owned partly by a corp.
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But BG3 has an AAA budget.
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Surely what’s being judged here is the game’s budget as opposed to the business structure and finances of the developer.
Its a Indie game… with multimillion dollar publisher who bankrolled them…
we need better indie game description.
Indie games that Dunkey often highlight shows the difference of production scale which cause me to question, where are all these game in the game awards?
Do Annapurna backed releases like Strays still can be considered “indie”
Dave the Diver is a good game but Dredge deserves to take the win
Neowiz achieved the impossible by creating a Souls like that is pretty much as good as a From game. For that alone, they deserve a nomination.
Dredge is my pick
Because the games media that comprise the jury for The Game Awards nominees are fucking idiots.
Because pixel graphics = indie. Why else would anyone want to use anything but the latest and greatest realistic graphics?
life isn’t fair, that’s why.
Does indie have a financial cap to be entered in the category? What makes indie indie?
Found this interesting tidbit on the Wikipedia page for the game:
> Dave the Diver is the first game from Mintrocket, a subsidiary of Nexon. Taehwan Kim, Vice President of Nexon America stated that Dave the Diver, “may look like an indie, but it’s not necessarily the case”.
That’s literally from an exec at Nexon America. This is why it’s important to standardize, or at the very least outline, a definition for what an “indie” game means. Because in 2023 it’s pretty much lost any universal meaning
People really loved Viewfinder? I found it was ruined by the dialogue.
Don’t think how unfair it is, vote on how fair it should be. and If you see Dave The Diver win, you see how the majority feels about “indie”.
I knew this would happen…
Dave the diver is a pretty good game, but it’s in no way an ‘indie title”
Blasphemous 2 should be there
Some people call indie games by graphic design not budget.
Larger companies can have dev teams that make indie games. Example Fox makes big movies. Fox Searchlight makes independent movies. Still Fox though.
To me, an indie game is a game where the developers have full decisions’ control. No inputs from the investors or editors, full creative control.
Took pizza tower’s spot
Everyone in this sub will have a much easier time when they realize that the Game Awards are just a marketing stunt and not a legitimate measure of the quality of any game.
Good point, not sure what the exact criteria are, but this seems to not belong here. That slot should go to Slay the Princess!
Indie game doesn’t mean independent from publishers anymore. It just means small budget nowadays
Because Dave the Diver would never win against BG3 or TOTK. Its not even a contest.
Yeah, this would be almost as bad as seeing CDPR or Larian Studios games on this list.
It sounds like calling Roland Emmerich movies indie-film. And yes it is actually more accurate than Mintrocket case.
I have seen indie games defined as games built with more limited funding, I think it’s up to £1million is still classified as indie
For everyone who likes a good Rpg with cool graphics and a nice fighting system. Sea of stars was pretty good. It had its flaws, like the main character almost non existant personality. But overall a good game
Dredge all the way.
Chained Echoes should have been nominated at least
Meanwhile Bomb Rush Cyberfunk got nothing. Honestly, I hardly consider these the goty awards, they’re more like Geoff choice awards.