It was such a bad move. It just waters down the whole thing.
Whoever has been running Youtube in the last few years seems to just *hate* Youtube. With the bullshit takedown of legitimate content, to out of control copywrite claims, and now this stupid shit. It’s just so disheartening. I wish there was a real competitor that had anywhere near as much content.
Yeah, they can pretend this is to reduce harassment all they want. Really it’s about engagement, it’s why videos autoplay now and they’re pushing shorts so hard. If you spend more than a second or two watching the “preview” that auto-plays, they can count that as a view, which looks better on “total viewership numbers” that is used to sell ad space and pacify investors. Removing thumbs down allows all video interactions to be lumped into a single positive “video engagement” metric which can be used to, that’s right, sell ad space.
The removal of dislikes has been inevitable since corporations started taking over the internet. There is no benefit to *them* to allow people to express displeasure, only benefits to the user, so of course, it had to go. You’re much more likely to stick around and watch a shitty video if you can’t immediately tell that its terrible, which increases their user engagement and ups how much they can charge for ad space.
Youtube does not give damn about the creator, you can tell because the **only** people who can still see dislikes are the creators themselves! How exactly does this protect creators if they can still see those statistics?
Everyone wasting their time arguing about principles or what’s right or whatever….such a waste of time. Anything YouTube says will be corporate PR bullshit and anyone else says will be met with deaf ears.
YouTube does what they want because where else are you going to go? Until that changes, save your breath.
Dude I remember when they first removed dislikes I was looking for a tutorial and when I clicked on one all the comments were saying he fucked up on some parts this is the reason we need dislikes back that’s just my 2 cents tho
>”We also saw the dislike count harming parts of our ecosystem through dislike attacks as people actively worked to drive up the number of dislikes on a creator’s videos. These attacks often targeted smaller creators and those just getting started”
Maybe I’m wrong here but the extreme majority (practically all) of “dislike attacks” are on corporation channels or larger controversial YouTubers, not on smaller creators. Plus it doesn’t even make sense considering that a smaller creator is rarely gonna drive enough traffic to get a dislike campaign unless they are a celebrity with a new channel or something.
The video used as an example of a “bad” video is a poor choice, and actually proves the opposite points. The narrator says that they generally prefer videos with 70% “Like” ratio, and the video example meets that criteria (1000 likes vs 186 dislikes). They then say that comments are a bad way of deciding whether or not a video is a good one, and the very first comment states that the video example is bad, therefore showing that comments can be an effective tool.
If there are dislike attacks, there are also “likes buying”, and subscriber buying, so Youtube should also remove likes count as well as subscriber count.
YouTube claiming they removed the dislike count to “protect creators” is one of the most clear-cut examples that should open people’s eyes about corporations *lying* to protect themselves from public influence.
Creators can literally *still see* the dislike count. It wasn’t hidden from them, it was hidden from *viewers*. If you genuinely believed them when they told you this is why: I have a bridge to sell you.
Motherfuckers want NFTs for fucks sake! That platform is doomed, what a pathetic joke.
Also Shorts is their big achievement? 12milion views on that piece of shit gets you 87$ fuck Shorts!
if dislikes don’t affect how ppl watch videos then why remove them.
you cant state that people don’t watch a video based on likes/dislikes but then state small creators were being attacked by dislikes so you had to remove it.
if it doesn’t matter then it doesn’t matter.
the fact you removed them but are lying about the reason means something matters and its probably corporate interests. not content creators.
if you gave a single fuck about content creators you would fix the fucked copyright strike system.
small creators are fucked over daily because of that.
It was such a bad move. It just waters down the whole thing.
Whoever has been running Youtube in the last few years seems to just *hate* Youtube. With the bullshit takedown of legitimate content, to out of control copywrite claims, and now this stupid shit. It’s just so disheartening. I wish there was a real competitor that had anywhere near as much content.
Youtube content creators deserve better.
God bless mods, addons, and adblockers. That’s the only way to watch youtube.
Yeah, they can pretend this is to reduce harassment all they want. Really it’s about engagement, it’s why videos autoplay now and they’re pushing shorts so hard. If you spend more than a second or two watching the “preview” that auto-plays, they can count that as a view, which looks better on “total viewership numbers” that is used to sell ad space and pacify investors. Removing thumbs down allows all video interactions to be lumped into a single positive “video engagement” metric which can be used to, that’s right, sell ad space.
The removal of dislikes has been inevitable since corporations started taking over the internet. There is no benefit to *them* to allow people to express displeasure, only benefits to the user, so of course, it had to go. You’re much more likely to stick around and watch a shitty video if you can’t immediately tell that its terrible, which increases their user engagement and ups how much they can charge for ad space.
Youtube does not give damn about the creator, you can tell because the **only** people who can still see dislikes are the creators themselves! How exactly does this protect creators if they can still see those statistics?
Everyone wasting their time arguing about principles or what’s right or whatever….such a waste of time. Anything YouTube says will be corporate PR bullshit and anyone else says will be met with deaf ears.
YouTube does what they want because where else are you going to go? Until that changes, save your breath.
I was always shocked when YouTube would deliver a result with a crazy number of dislikes. Their algorithm is suspect.
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Dude I remember when they first removed dislikes I was looking for a tutorial and when I clicked on one all the comments were saying he fucked up on some parts this is the reason we need dislikes back that’s just my 2 cents tho
Imagine reddit with no downvote button.
If you can only say yes then it’s meaningless.
Lol Mental Outlaw on r/videos. What a trip
Just comment “Dislike”, Youtube will then disable the comments section.
>”We also saw the dislike count harming parts of our ecosystem through dislike attacks as people actively worked to drive up the number of dislikes on a creator’s videos. These attacks often targeted smaller creators and those just getting started”
Maybe I’m wrong here but the extreme majority (practically all) of “dislike attacks” are on corporation channels or larger controversial YouTubers, not on smaller creators. Plus it doesn’t even make sense considering that a smaller creator is rarely gonna drive enough traffic to get a dislike campaign unless they are a celebrity with a new channel or something.
Why should they care? There’s no competition.
“Everybody disliked that.”
Shit is flat out dangerous for DYI videos. Sometimes people give very bad advice and downvotes helped call them out.
YouTube doing unpopular things and then doubling down on it. A tale as old as time itself.
The video used as an example of a “bad” video is a poor choice, and actually proves the opposite points. The narrator says that they generally prefer videos with 70% “Like” ratio, and the video example meets that criteria (1000 likes vs 186 dislikes). They then say that comments are a bad way of deciding whether or not a video is a good one, and the very first comment states that the video example is bad, therefore showing that comments can be an effective tool.
If there are dislike attacks, there are also “likes buying”, and subscriber buying, so Youtube should also remove likes count as well as subscriber count.
Youtube could just enable creators the ability to disable the dislike button if they were being genuine. But no.
Can we get some competition? The monopoly these tech companies have is ridiculous.
Now I go by views vs likes. If there’s a self fix video, and it’s got 100k views. But only 200 likes, I assume it’s bad.
>removing dislike ststistics doesn’t meaningfully change viewership statistics
Yet
>dislike attacks harm small content creators
Can’t have it both ways. Pick a stance and stick to it pls.
YouTube claiming they removed the dislike count to “protect creators” is one of the most clear-cut examples that should open people’s eyes about corporations *lying* to protect themselves from public influence.
Creators can literally *still see* the dislike count. It wasn’t hidden from them, it was hidden from *viewers*. If you genuinely believed them when they told you this is why: I have a bridge to sell you.
Motherfuckers want NFTs for fucks sake! That platform is doomed, what a pathetic joke.
Also Shorts is their big achievement? 12milion views on that piece of shit gets you 87$ fuck Shorts!
I’m going to start writing “dislike” on YouTube videos. Then people can upvote the word “dislike” and see how many others have done the same.
Why don’t they remove the like counter too? Make it fair.
if dislikes don’t affect how ppl watch videos then why remove them.
you cant state that people don’t watch a video based on likes/dislikes but then state small creators were being attacked by dislikes so you had to remove it.
if it doesn’t matter then it doesn’t matter.
the fact you removed them but are lying about the reason means something matters and its probably corporate interests. not content creators.
if you gave a single fuck about content creators you would fix the fucked copyright strike system.
small creators are fucked over daily because of that.
that alone is proof you are a fucking liar.
such a fucking hypocritical argument.