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Chiropractors Are Not What You Think They Are and its connection to Scientology
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The whole practice was born from ‘ghosts told me in a dream’
That says all you really need to know and if you should ever subject your spine to them.
It’s fun watching these zoomers discover things widely known by the general public for a century. Wait till they figure out that over half of the rest of our for profit health care system is utter ineffective bullshit.
The neighborhood chiropractor is a Mormon. I kinda feel about Mormonism the same as Scientology so this tracks.
I don’t know if this means chiropractors are a double whammy of scam or that Scooby Doo moment of pulling a mask just to reveal another monster face underneath.
As someone who’s spent a considerable amount of time around Scientologists, you’d be surprised how many are also chiropractics. Like an UNCANNY amount.
The first chiropractor learned the technique from a ghost and chiropractic medicine was a cult for a long while. Anyone paying a chiropractor is legitimately an idiot.
Most chiropractors reject widely accepted, scientifically proven medical principles, including the efficacy of vaccines.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-vaccinationism_in_chiropractic
It’s completely quackery.
If someone tries to tell you to go to a chiropractor… RUN away from them.
Personal experience.
My chiropractor gave me a stroke
okay, but when my hip was a bit turnt inside my body and doctors sent me to physical therapy which didnt work and 6 months of discomfort and pain… i went to a chiropractor for literally 5 minutes. He took a look, layed me on his bench and said „yeah well see. Your hip is not right.“ proceeded to do his chiropractor thing and IMMEDIATLY it was better. Couple weeks later when the muscles relaxed from the stress it was perfectly fine again.
Sure some chiropractors may not know what they do, but many do. Many are very good.
(also it was 30€. 30€ to fix me in 5 minutes.)
Question: Do you think that goes for the US specifically, or is more a universal thing.
Background: I went for some sessions to a chiropractor who didnt do any voodoo but had a profound knowledge about the human physique and beside the therapy he gave me some good advice for exercises and also gave me the advice to see a doctor for an MRI because of a potential herniated vertebral disk.
I dont want to defend any of those quacksalvers.. but I would like to know if there are specific countries where chiropractic is legitimate or not.
AFAIK in Germany we also have the differentiation between Chiropractor, Chirotherapist and “Chiropraktiker”, not sure if there a direct equivalents in English.
Whoop, here come chiro nutters. Comments gonna get spicey.
not even watching the video, just think this is funny because when i was janitor we cleaned a chiropractor’s office and there was scientology stuff everywhere in the back rooms including a bunch of plagues and other awards.
shit’s fuckin weird.
Chiropractors focus on one very small portion of the science, relief not a solution to your issues. Their business is repeat customers. I have never heard anyone say I went to the Chiro and I’ve never needed to go back! It’s like buying a book to only read one page.
If you routinely see a chiro you need to start seeing an osteopathic doctor.
90% of Chiropractors are people that have flunked out of medical school.
Lobbyists have helped destroy our country.
People thinking popping bones fix shit are stupid mother fuckers. Bones don’t move people, they literally just go back into the same spot.
They regularly injure and have even killed infants before
Chiro is unequivocally a grift.
Scientology is unequivocally a grift, but at least amusing from a distance
When the only thing that verifies it “working” is anecdotal evidence from individuals then I’m afraid it assuredly doesn’t work. Like herbal medicine, uhh we tested (and continue to test) all the herbs. The ones that work we made into medicines, the others became teas. Same with chiropractors, the stuff that works became physical therapy all that other shit became the quackery that is chiropractics.
I just went through spinal surgery and every surgeon along the way asked “and do you go to a chiropractor? No? Good.”
It’s even leaking into physical therapy now. PT’s will swear that chiropractic medicine is false and pseudoscience, but then you go in for physical therapy at a reputable place and…
So I was going for back pain. Lots of exercises and stuff, but a few times they would massage my back and “adjust” my “alignment”. Which is where they would feel out my spine with their fingers and insist this or that vertebrae were “out of alignment” and then they would just crack my back while putting left or right pressure on that vertebrae with a finger.
A few different PT’s did this. And I just though it was weird cuz… like I crack my own back and neck and everything all the time but I’m pretty sure that’s now how it works, “adjusting alignment” that is.
I once went to a seminar for a chiropractic network called “Maximized Living.” Those mother fuckers claimed chiropractic care coupled with a good diet and exercise could REVERSE cancer growth. There was a lot of talk about “toxins.”
Let’s talk about the data. The science shown in studies about “chiropractic” (which we are going to define as having your spine/bones manipulated in order to fix chronic conditions) all but PROVE that chiropractic has NO lasting impact on pain or any other condition whatsoever. Now, that’s not to say that chiropractors don’t do things that help. They sometimes stretch you out, they have you bend in certain ways that might help relieve whatever pain you’re going through TEMPORARILY … but the actual act of cracking the spine or bones in the way that chiropractors do has NEVER EVER EVER been scientifically proven to have any lasting effect on any condition at all. the world of chiropractor is also full of ridiculous shit that isn’t real either like “your legs are different lengths we need to adjust you” (BULLSHIT, has no basis in science) or “i can tell your spine is out of whack, we need to adjust your spine to relieve your pain” (COMPLETE bullshit, medically ridiculous, and all but disproven by science.
Has someone been to a chiropractor and found relief? Yes, it would be silly to deny that. Chiropractors can stretch you out. It feels good to be stretched out. But they have no proven benefit beyond that; the crux of their ideology (spinal manipulation) is complete bullshit. The science shows it.
I recommend the Unbiased Science podcast episode on chiro for further information. Very informative and unbiased.
One of my sisters friends was paralyzed from the neck down after seeing a chiropractor, the chiro. Advised AGAINST an MRI and she ended up having a blood clot.
Edit to include: This happened just a month ago, they have a long road of recovery in front of them and we’re hoping they won’t be fully paralyzed but wont know until they enter rehab. It’s really sad that it could have all been avoided if it wasn’t for the predatory practices of the chiropractor, a young person’s life has been changed forever because of it.
It’s like saying you shouldn’t try to grind up Uranium and put it in your tea.
My wrist hurt and my mom told me to go to the chiropractor
He told me my wrist was “out” because it made a cracking noise when bending it. It’s done that ever since i broke it. Proceeded to “adjust” my wrist which hurt like hell then recommended i return for weekly adjustments.
Went to a non emergency clinic and within 5 minutes they told me it was an over use injury and i should wear a brace and take anti inflammatory meds when i sleep. Easy.
I refuse to call a chiropractor, a doctor. Yeah they may have a doctorate degree in chiropractor but that’s kind of like saying they have a doctor’s degree in quackery. They are all scam artists and something like 80 people per year get killed by them when they do their quackery on people.
The founding father of Chiro learned from ghosts. That tells ya something.
Chiropractors are NOT medical physicians so please please PLEASE don’t let their advice override a physician’s.
Everything is a scam until your lower back hurts and doctors tell you; it’s all in your head.
It’s insane they’re allowed to call themselves doctors.
Forget it Homer, it Chirotown
I accused my chiropractor of lying to me, but he soon set me straight
They are exactly what I think they are. It always saddens me when I hear someone saying they are going to a chiropractor. They need to be banned.
Don’t go to chiropractors. Just don’t. They aren’t doctors. Not only is a bunch of nonsense quackery, but what they are doing is actually dangerous. Go see a trained and licensed PT instead.
My 2 oldest brothers are Physical Therapists in Las Vegas with PhDs. The Chiropractor unions, lobbyists, lawyers, or whatever are so strong in Nevade that Physical Therapists (with a PhD) aren’t allowed to call themselves doctors (because they aren’t MDs) but Chiropractors with a Doctor of Chiropractic (which you can get without even completing a B.S. degree) can refer to themselves as a doctor.
Chiropractors’ **ONLY** scientific requirements are 24 undergraduate credits. My lab partner for Chemistry 101 and 201 in college struggled through those classes. He honestly would have failed if I hadn’t helped him through them. He refused to have his children vaccinated. He left for Chiropractic school without completing his bachelor’s degree and received zero scientific training during chiropractic school. He posts literally the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen in my life on Facebook. For example: He believes that human embryos are tiny, fully-formed humans swimming laps in the amniotic sac. When that sac gets burst (during an abortion) that little human turns into the blobs we see in scientific textbooks when it gets exposed to oxygen. In his practice, he uses a machine that can read peoples’ auras to tell him where their bodies aren’t functioning properly and then he uses the machine to deliver a small electric shock to that portion of the body and jump-start it. For example, when he scans your aura and your liver is the wrong color he will deliver external shocks near your liver and that will fix whatever problem he is seeing with your liver on the aura-reading device. HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THIS SHIT! Sadly, his customers do too.
Another very common scam that I’ve seen is this. Someone has a minor fender bender and they call a lawyer. Lawyer sends them to a chiropractor. Chiropractor tells them it will take months and months to fix it. They go fo 6 months or so and there is never any improvement. Then in their last 2 weeks of treatment… Voila! Good as new! The patient is getting steadily behind on payments to the chiropractor, but the lawyer is assuring them that their insurance or the other driver will be liable for these payments. They go to court, if they win, every cent is paid to the lawyer and chiropractor. If they lose, the patient is SOL and owes thousands of dollars in legal and chiropractic fees.
I liked this video but I kind of felt like it was too short. I really wanted some nitty gritty info about what chiropractors actually do and how it compares to say physical therapy. Is there any of chiro that holds merit or is it all bunk? Etc.
I feel my back got worse since my visit to them..
Try acupuncture instead
Years ago I went to one a few times. There was one guy and some assistants, that’s it. But, there were different offices and rooms. While one patient was waiting, the chiropractor would be doing the stuff to the other patient, etc.
I noticed pretty quickly that each office had the exact same books on the bookshelf. As if they have a fucking QUACKERY MAGICIAN kit they send away for.
It was then that I started to pay attention. I mean the first clue was the ‘one leg shorter’ bullshit. They think their clients are morons and they are absolutely correct.
I had pain in my back and right leg. I went to a chiropractor for two sessions, left feeling amazing and the pain has never come back after 5+ years.
I personally enjoyed my experience with it.
while it could be that some Scientologists pursue Chiropractic work, to lump all Chiro folks in as Scientologists is pure clickbait crap.
The problem with Chiropractic work is there are weaker standards for licensing and such, so a lot of idiots get involved in it. The good ones are hard to find, and they DON’T “crack” your back/neck (or other crazy shit you see on videos – stay the fuck away from those). Moving bones into a new alignment (from a bad alignment) takes a long time, must be done gently and slowly, forcing them suddenly into a new position is bad, that’s not how the body works (as that is basically trauma). While there may be rare situations after an accident where sudden adjustments might be helpful (there’s always exceptions), generally that’s not helpful and will just need constant realignment in the best case, worst case it will cause damage.
K I believe all that. But when my back spasms real doctors tell me to lay down for the better part of a week or take pills that fuck me up. The chiropractor does his thing and I’m back to work feeding my family.
This explains why I feel worse walking out of a chiropractor appointment than when I walk in 😂
While the discipline has some silly origins in the west, there’s a lot of compelling evidence that suggests chiropractor adjustments are a cost effective method of pain management that works. There’s a scientific study commissioned in Canada called the Manga Report that dives into this (by actual medical doctors)
Part of the problem is separating the quackeryof some practitioners from the pragmatic benefits of the treatments. Most physiotherapists these days are trained to do adjustments because it actually is pragmatic and effective and it’s a big part of contemporary sports medicine.
And for full disclosure, when I herniated a disc on my honeymoon (lol) my physiotherapist clwas working with a chiro at their clinic to provide a bunch of different treatments that got me up and running.
I’m 90% convinced everyone recommended to go to a chiropractor should just go to a physical or occupational therapist. Or Ortho.
It’s SUPER tough to sue a chiropractor when something does go wrong.
The simplest way to explain how fake chiropractors are is to pretend it’s real medicine. Whats the first thing you do when taking actual medicine? You have to get the dosage right. You take too much advil, you die.
So how do chiropractors determine dosage and how do they ensure that it’s applied correctly?
The answer is they don’t, watch any chiropractor video. How many neck cracks does it take to cure something? How hard do you have to do it? How do you know if you applied too much neck crack?
I am sure some of those questions pop up answers in your mind, hilarious answers, like oh too much neck crack is the person is paralyzed or dead, lol. That’s not medicine.
Not sure what kind of chiropractors all of you are going to. Are you finding them from one of those flyers in the restroom?